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		<title>By: Tessa</title>
		<link>http://www.lodgerlandlord.co.uk/2010/02/01/day-1-what-is-a-lodger-2/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>Tessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 08:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q1.  Having a lock on the door is not conclusive but will be a strong indication.  Each case will turn on its own facts.  The 1977 Protection from Eviction act points are looked at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lodgerlandlord.co.uk/2010/04/14/evicting-lodger-without-a-court-order-when-can-you-do-it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  

The main implcations of having a tenancy are that the landlord will be bound by the statutory repairing covenants in s11 of the Landlord &amp; Tenant Act 1985, and having a sub tenant could put the landlord in breach of the terms of his mortgage and insurance policy.  Also if the landlord stops living at the property, the tenancy will convert to an AST requiring a minimum notice of 2 months if the landlord wants the tenant to leave.  

Q2.  The phrase &#039;sub letting&#039; generally means letting as a tenancy, particuarly as many tenancy agreements also prohibit paying guests and lodgers.  However any tenant wanting to take in a lodger should speak to their landlord about it first.  Most landlords will agree  particuarly if the reason for taking a lodger is to prevent the tenant falling into arrears of rent.  

I will probably be doing posts on these points later so keep an eye on the blog.  

Note that I am going to close comments on this post now, as this is an introductory post to the 21 days series, and the points covered are now dealt with in more detail elsewhere on the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q1.  Having a lock on the door is not conclusive but will be a strong indication.  Each case will turn on its own facts.  The 1977 Protection from Eviction act points are looked at <a href="http://www.lodgerlandlord.co.uk/2010/04/14/evicting-lodger-without-a-court-order-when-can-you-do-it/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  </p>
<p>The main implcations of having a tenancy are that the landlord will be bound by the statutory repairing covenants in s11 of the Landlord &#038; Tenant Act 1985, and having a sub tenant could put the landlord in breach of the terms of his mortgage and insurance policy.  Also if the landlord stops living at the property, the tenancy will convert to an AST requiring a minimum notice of 2 months if the landlord wants the tenant to leave.  </p>
<p>Q2.  The phrase &#8216;sub letting&#8217; generally means letting as a tenancy, particuarly as many tenancy agreements also prohibit paying guests and lodgers.  However any tenant wanting to take in a lodger should speak to their landlord about it first.  Most landlords will agree  particuarly if the reason for taking a lodger is to prevent the tenant falling into arrears of rent.  </p>
<p>I will probably be doing posts on these points later so keep an eye on the blog.  </p>
<p>Note that I am going to close comments on this post now, as this is an introductory post to the 21 days series, and the points covered are now dealt with in more detail elsewhere on the site.</p>
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		<title>By: westminster</title>
		<link>http://www.lodgerlandlord.co.uk/2010/02/01/day-1-what-is-a-lodger-2/comment-page-1/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>westminster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 18:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tessa, A couple of questions. 

Q1: I&#039;m confused about the issue of potentially granting a tenancy by having a lock on the lodger&#039;s room. As I understand it, if an occupier shares accommodation with his landlord, and the property is the landlord&#039;s only or principal residence, then the occupier is &#039;excluded&#039; - that is, the Protection from Eviction Act 1977 does not apply.

This being the case, if the lodger had a &#039;tenancy&#039; by virtue of having exclusive possession of his room, what might be the consequences of this tenancy?

Q2: Let&#039;s say that a tenant with an assured shorthold tenancy takes in a lodger (and follows your advice to provide small services and not to give the lodger exclusive possession of his room), and the contract prohibits &#039;subletting&#039; - would the AST tenant be in breach of the contract?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tessa, A couple of questions. </p>
<p>Q1: I&#8217;m confused about the issue of potentially granting a tenancy by having a lock on the lodger&#8217;s room. As I understand it, if an occupier shares accommodation with his landlord, and the property is the landlord&#8217;s only or principal residence, then the occupier is &#8216;excluded&#8217; &#8211; that is, the Protection from Eviction Act 1977 does not apply.</p>
<p>This being the case, if the lodger had a &#8216;tenancy&#8217; by virtue of having exclusive possession of his room, what might be the consequences of this tenancy?</p>
<p>Q2: Let&#8217;s say that a tenant with an assured shorthold tenancy takes in a lodger (and follows your advice to provide small services and not to give the lodger exclusive possession of his room), and the contract prohibits &#8216;subletting&#8217; &#8211; would the AST tenant be in breach of the contract?</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tessa, Thanks for that I will look our for Day 19. I have been a landlord some years and have consulted fellow landlords, solicitors and Age Concern about this situation none of whom have definite advice so it may well be that your &#039;one to one&#039; service will be the answer. Also wanted to say how good your Lodger Landlord tips are. Excellent, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tessa, Thanks for that I will look our for Day 19. I have been a landlord some years and have consulted fellow landlords, solicitors and Age Concern about this situation none of whom have definite advice so it may well be that your &#8216;one to one&#8217; service will be the answer. Also wanted to say how good your Lodger Landlord tips are. Excellent, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lodger Landlord 21 days of tips – the first week &#171; FreeLegalWeb</title>
		<link>http://www.lodgerlandlord.co.uk/2010/02/01/day-1-what-is-a-lodger-2/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Lodger Landlord 21 days of tips – the first week &#171; FreeLegalWeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Day 1 &#8211; What is a lodger? This looks at whether there is a legal definition of a lodger and gives advice on avoiding creating a tenancy.  There are some interesting comments on this tip. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Day 1 &#8211; What is a lodger? This looks at whether there is a legal definition of a lodger and gives advice on avoiding creating a tenancy.  There are some interesting comments on this tip. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa</title>
		<link>http://www.lodgerlandlord.co.uk/2010/02/01/day-1-what-is-a-lodger-2/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Tessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Vanessa.  I will get to dealing with problem lodger on Day 19.  I don&#039;t really want to pre-empt this, or discuss problem lodgers on this page.  Sorry. 

If you would like some &#039;one to one&#039; advice, note that I offer a fixed fee advice service to members of my Landlord Law web-site which you can read about here http://www.landlordlaw.co.uk/pagedetail.ihtml?id=7805.  

Can anyone reading this please note that questions on problem lodgers posted to this page will not be published - any comments on problem lodgers should be made to the Day 19 post (which will go live on 19 February 2010).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vanessa.  I will get to dealing with problem lodger on Day 19.  I don&#8217;t really want to pre-empt this, or discuss problem lodgers on this page.  Sorry. </p>
<p>If you would like some &#8216;one to one&#8217; advice, note that I offer a fixed fee advice service to members of my Landlord Law web-site which you can read about here <a href="http://www.landlordlaw.co.uk/pagedetail.ihtml?id=7805" rel="nofollow">http://www.landlordlaw.co.uk/pagedetail.ihtml?id=7805</a>.  </p>
<p>Can anyone reading this please note that questions on problem lodgers posted to this page will not be published &#8211; any comments on problem lodgers should be made to the Day 19 post (which will go live on 19 February 2010).</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
		<link>http://www.lodgerlandlord.co.uk/2010/02/01/day-1-what-is-a-lodger-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This situation started approximately 6 years ago, about a year after my mother&#039;s husband died, and after my son had to move away who had been living there until that point. There has never been a written agreement and although the problem lodger initially paid rent, after 3 years and on the advice of her solicitor, my mother stopped charging. Can you tell me what rights the lodger/guest(?) now has and if he will aquire them in time. My mother is 84.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This situation started approximately 6 years ago, about a year after my mother&#8217;s husband died, and after my son had to move away who had been living there until that point. There has never been a written agreement and although the problem lodger initially paid rent, after 3 years and on the advice of her solicitor, my mother stopped charging. Can you tell me what rights the lodger/guest(?) now has and if he will aquire them in time. My mother is 84.</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Vanessa.  We look at dealing with problem lodgers on day 19 and on evicting lodgers on Day 20.  Have a look also at the lodger agreement - some specify that the license to occupy will end automatically if the rent is not paid for two months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Vanessa.  We look at dealing with problem lodgers on day 19 and on evicting lodgers on Day 20.  Have a look also at the lodger agreement &#8211; some specify that the license to occupy will end automatically if the rent is not paid for two months.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
		<link>http://www.lodgerlandlord.co.uk/2010/02/01/day-1-what-is-a-lodger-2/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tessa,I am very concerned about a situation with my ancient mother who has allowed a very unpleasant man to live in her house. I have many questions but firstly, what is the legal position if he is not paying any rent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tessa,I am very concerned about a situation with my ancient mother who has allowed a very unpleasant man to live in her house. I have many questions but firstly, what is the legal position if he is not paying any rent?</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul

You really need to read the rest of the 21 days.  For example take a look at Day 4, and in due course Day 20.  My advice however is not to allow the lock, or only to allow it on condition that you have a key and will go in as and when you need to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul</p>
<p>You really need to read the rest of the 21 days.  For example take a look at Day 4, and in due course Day 20.  My advice however is not to allow the lock, or only to allow it on condition that you have a key and will go in as and when you need to.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tessa, great idea for a blog. My lodger has asked for permission to put a lock on his door. Assuming this gives him a tenancy because he gets exclusive possession of his room, should I be concerned? He can&#039;t have a statutory tenancy because I live in the house (I think?), and I (think) that he is still required to leave if I give him notice. What is the legal/practical downside for me if I let him fit a lock?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tessa, great idea for a blog. My lodger has asked for permission to put a lock on his door. Assuming this gives him a tenancy because he gets exclusive possession of his room, should I be concerned? He can&#8217;t have a statutory tenancy because I live in the house (I think?), and I (think) that he is still required to leave if I give him notice. What is the legal/practical downside for me if I let him fit a lock?</p>
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